White House: Florida, Other States Cannot Secede From U.S.
A petition with more than 37,000 signatures to allow the Sunshine State to withdraw from the United States has been denied. What do you think, St. Pete?
It looks like the United States will be stuck with Florida whether folks in the Sunshine State like it or not.
A petition before the White House to allow Florida to peacefully secede from the United States was denied Friday by the White House.
More than 37,000 people had signed the petition, and similar petitions in eight other states, including Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Texas. Also denied was a petition to deport everyone who had signed a similar petition.
Secession was put out of the realm of state rights after the Civil War, partially through the 14th Amendment, Slate reports, and a Supreme Court interpretation confirmed as much in 2010, according to Politico.com. Those arguments are spelled out by the White House.
The legal argument was that the state would have to sue the U.S., and the U.S. government would have to be consented to be sued for a declaratory judgment, and in that case, the federal government would probably decline.
In the White House's response to all 10 petitions, and titled "Our States Remain United," spokesman Jon Carson wrote:
Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.
In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."
Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideasand share more of your own.
What do you think, New Port Richey? Should Florida be allowed to leave? Share your thoughts in the comments section.
Florida Secession Petition Coverage
Grace
8:21 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Florida wanting to leave the Union is the silliest thing I have heard in a long time. And believe me, living here, I have heard a lot of silly (and stupid) things. America is great because of each part. Each state. Regardless of whether or not you voted for candidate X or Y, X won so you are upset, or you don't care for what a President does. Hey a lot of people didn't like what Bush did, and I didn't see any online petitions to secede. A lot of people didn't like FDR (I was around back then) and said that Social Security was Communism. Or in the McCarthy days when everybody was a secret commie. Or the slogan "better dead than red." Or the kids going through "duck and cover" drills, which we knew would do nothing really to protect them. Healthy debate is important, I might not agree with you or you might not agree with me, but be an adult about it. America is a different country than back then, Americans seem to be a bit more selfish than we used to be, but America is still here. Whether you want to look at the glass as half-full or half-empty, it's still great because of all of it's parts.
Faye Demelis
8:48 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Their candidate didn't get elected and these people have a temper tantrum. Every election the losing side is not happy. In 4 years the voting process repeats and the majority will speak again no matter which candidate wins. Should we ask to secede every time our candidate doesn't get elected?
If everyone that wanted to stay in the US moved from FL then that would leave 37,000 individuals to run the state? United States is my home. Like individuals, it has flaws but I wouldn't live anywhere else. Why should millions have to move for a handful that are stomping their feet?
Carla Gibson
2:41 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013
I find it impossible to believe those 37,000 (plus) people in Florida that signed the petition seriously believed it would pass .. and why are the other eight states that signed similar petitions located in the south too? Didn't the Civil War end a LONG time ago???? The south is such a "silly" place ..
kathy B
1:36 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Only 37,000 people out of the entire state of Florida signed the petition. How is that representative of the whole states wishes? I never even knew there was any discussion on the subject.