.

Pasco Says ‘No’ to Feral Cats

The county’s animal shelter no longer accepts feral cats and strays.

New Port Richey residents who are tired of hearing the mewing of feral cats in their neighborhoods at night can no longer round them up for a drop off at Pasco County Animal Services.

As part of its Save 90% program, the county has decided to change the way it handles intakes. That program charges the county with saving 90 percent of the animals brought into its Land O’ Lakes shelter.

Feral cats and strays, however, can make that goal difficult to obtain. That’s why the county has put the brakes on its old policy of accepting cats carte blanche. It’s also decided it will no longer accept cats – and dogs – that owners want to have euthanized.

The county will, however, still accept owner-surrender cats, but only on a few specific days of the week, said Judy T. Gregory, spokeswoman for the agency.

Why the policy change?

“We don’t have a leash law in Pasco (for cats),” Gregory said. “Cats are allowed to roam free.”

Spay Pasco Provides an Alternative

While Pasco won’t take in feral or stray cats, Gregory said residents still have options. One of them comes through the county-supported Spay Pasco program. That is a trap, neuter and release program, or TNR program for short.

Through Spay Pasco residents can trap feral cats in their neighborhoods and take them in for sterilization surgery. Following surgery, residents can pick the cats back up and return them to the wild.  The cost for the surgery is $10 per cat and traps are available through Spay Pasco if a $50 deposit is provided.

Spay Pasco operates using a network of local veterinarians to perform the surgery. Participating vet offices are found in locations throughout the county.

For more details about Spay Pasco, visit its website.

The county is also considering launching an expanded TNR program, but details aren’t ready for release yet, Gregory said.

When Can Owners Drop Off Pets?

Under the new rules, animal services only accepts owner release animals two days a week. The days and hours are:

  • Tuesdays from noon to 4:30 p.m.
  • Thursdays from noon to 6:30 p.m.

For more information about animal services, visit the agency online.

What do you think about the county’s decision to turn away feral cats? Share your thoughts by commenting below.

Subscribe to the New Port Richey Patch newsletter to have local news delivered to your email each day. Sign up here.

See Also:

  • Pasco Animal Services Director Resigns
  • Commissioner 'Frustrated' With Overcrowding at Animal Services


Rev Michael Carbone April 09, 2013 at 02:34 PM
I think it's time for the county to consider a LEASH LAW for cats! We have one for dogs since dogs can destroy property by digging holes, using yards to do their business, getting into trash, etc... Guess what? Cat's do the same thing and sometimes worse. Try having a vegetable garden? It becomes their litter box which is a health hazard. They use your car to sleep on which scratches up your paint. They spray their scent to mark their territory and depending on how many cats in the area the smell can be over powering. Don't get me wrong, I love cats, though I don't own for numerous reasons. I think once the county requires people to take full responsibility for their cats things will change for the better. The requirement for vaccines ONLY if someone owns 9 or more cats is crazy. It should be that if you feed 1 cat that you have to make sure to get it's shots, that feeding even 1 cat makes you legally responsible for it. Doesn't matter if it's a "neighborhood cat". You feed it you take responsibility for it.
Juls April 09, 2013 at 05:29 PM
Amen! I with you other than I can't stand stray cats! I don't like when cat owners allow their cats out to roam free either. I have vegetable and flower gardens and I'm so sick of coming out and finding the tell tale signs that a cat did it's business in them again! I have a dog and he stay in my yard and I clean up after him daily. Cat owners should do the same and why should I have to trap them and have them fixed and pay for it!???? I took care of my dog, I'm sick of cats in my neighborhood fighting, etc. throughout the night, coming up on my porch and teasing my dog in the window! Enough is enough.
Juls April 09, 2013 at 05:31 PM
I can't stand stray cats! I don't like when cat owners allow their cats out to roam free either. I have vegetable and flower gardens and I'm so sick of coming out and finding the tell tale signs that a cat did it's business in them again, as well as the nasty spraying smell, especially as it gets hotter! I own a dog and he stays in my yard and I clean up after him daily. Cat owners should do the same and why should I have to trap them and have them fixed and pay for it!???? I took care of my dog, I'm sick of cats in my neighborhood fighting, etc. throughout the night, coming up on my porch and teasing my dog in the window! Enough is enough. There should be a leash law.
Justine Rice April 09, 2013 at 06:53 PM
Kathryn you are ignorate, Susan can leave her garage open and should be able to....When cats spray its the most awful smell and very hard to get rid of. The Question Here should be WHY is Pasco doing this now, and HOW can we change it....Now I do agree with not having leash laws Really did you ever try and put a cat on a leash, HOWEVER KATHRYN maybe you should try volunteering to help these cats instead of calling people ignorant names...YES PEOPLE you need to take responsibility for your ANIMALS but name calling doesn't help anyone.
Justine Rice April 09, 2013 at 07:05 PM
Wow really cause the way you insult people you could of fooled me
Karen Cathers April 09, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Kathryn....I'm with you! I also own house cats that are not allowed out and are fully vetted. I also have done countless hours of humane work unpaid btw to help feral cats and have also fostered many. Keep up the good work!
m carlisle April 10, 2013 at 02:16 AM
I TNR feral cats along with some other ladies I work with. We love cats and pay for all the expenses ourselves. Is it fair to us to pay for everything? no. But that doesn't help the problem. Eventually the colonies fade out or at least dwindle. I just had a neighbor move and leave behind almost a dozen cats. I am in the process of TNR with them now. I feed them so they stay where they are. We need more options for cheap if not free spaying/neutering to reduce the populations. We need more volunteers to do TNR. Once cats are nuetered they don't spray as much or at all. They don't fight for territory or females etc. I have a neighbor with free range chickens. The chickens have gotten into my garden and decimated my vegetables. I don't hate or blame the chickens, it's what they do. I didn't complain to the neighbor either. i put a fence up around my garden, use the chicken poop to enrich my compost and every now and then get a bunch of great eggs. I have another neighbor that just complains about the chickens getting into her garden; won't put up a fence because the chickens aren't supposed to be there, its someone else fault for letting them run loose, etc etc. She has decimated veggies and no eggs. My point is; Try and be part of the solution and not the problem. It's not the cat's fault they where born with no home or kicked out of the one they had. If everyone did a little, we could accomplish alot.
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 02:16 AM
An often-played-out scenario in any community that passes these "no kill" policies for animal shelters. As soon as a community does that, word spreads FAST. All the surrounding towns, counties, and nearby states; start rounding up all their unwanted pets that they don't have the spine & heart to kill, then go dump them off in these little communities that thought "no kill" is any kind of answer when it comes to unwanted pets. Guess what happens to all those people who got the "no kill" policies passed? The then make it illegal to remove cats from your own properties and then climb off into the woodwork, or scurry back under the rocks from whence they came, as fast as possible to run from the unwanted-animal disaster they just created. Leaving all those dumped animals to everyone else to deal with. "No Kill" people are just as irresponsible with everyone else's animals as they are their own. They want SOMEONE ELSE to take care of their favorite animals for them and will force you to do so in any way they can.
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 02:20 AM
TBL35, Ooops, one slight problem with that. TNR hasn't been able to reduce cat-breeding rates anywhere. TNR fails for the very same reason Trap & Kill failed. No trapping program in the world can catch-up to cats' breeding rates and the rates at which criminally irresponsible cat-lickers let more cats be born and dumped outdoors. This is why you will read "glowing reports" from proud and self-righteous TNR caretakers of how they started their TNR colonies over 25 years ago and they're STILL happily "reducing" cat populations in their area. One-quarter of a century later and they still haven't reduced cat populations one little bit. This is just how delusional TNR advocates are.
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 02:23 AM
I found a perfect solution for those who don't want to take more direct and more effective measures against these invasive species vermin cats. Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats (from the cat-lickers' own negligent behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! -- PERMANENTLY Google for: lily toxicity cats It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of Lily pollen (Lilium species only) from their fur will be fatal in short order. Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want -- if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can't plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn't it. A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn't evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it's a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 02:28 AM
Doing a little research on ASPCA's toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae). Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do): Common Name | Scientific Name Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Lilium asiatica Easter Lily | Lilium longiflorum Red Lily | Lilium umbellatum Rubrum Lily** | Lilium speciosum cultivar Stargazer Lily** | Lilium orientalis Tiger Lily** | Lilium tigrinum Wood Lily | Lilium umbellatum (not of the Lilium species) Orange Day Lily | Hemerocallis graminea (** see notes below) Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough: [NONE] Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has "Lilium" on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. On further investigation I found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or powdered spice for a special outdoor can of tuna.) **There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective.
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 02:34 AM
The ONLY veterinarians and groups supporting the COMPLETELY INHUMANE practice of TNR are those that financially benefit from all the hundreds of thousands of dollars that petfood company "charities" hand-out as "seed money" cash-grants and pleas for donations by exploiting suffering animals. The more suffering cat-mouths that they can all keep alive to torture to death by "attrition" and torture all wildlife to death with their cats, the more they all benefit financially. This is ONLY about the money made by letting cats and wildlife suffer to death. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HUMANE NOR ECOLOGICALLY CORRECT ABOUT TNR. ALL respectable veterinarians and all others with the least bit of credible education and morality speak out strongly AGAINST TNR. Educate yourselves as well about this morally reprehensible TNR "business". You can start by Googling for these postings (include the quotes for each full search-string): "The TNR Con-Game" "Be cautious about using any cats taken from outdoors for adoption" (Why rabid cats are being adopted right from shelters.) "Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem." AND "I don't see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore." AND "irreversible consequences" (this posting contains the ONLY method that actually works 100%, is affordable by anyone, and becomes a permanent fix in less than a year!) and "Here's another fun aspect of TNR that TNR LIARS never bother to tell anyone" (TNR LIARS clip cats'-ears ONLY!)
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 05:27 AM
Not a "bird lover", but I must admit, the hundreds of new species that either returned to my lands or are brand new to this area after I humanely shot and buried every last one of hundreds of your invasive species vermin (on advice of the Sheriff), sure is a nice perk. I was more concerned about all the owls, fox, raccoons, hawks, snakes, and other native predators that were starved to death after trying to reason with sociopathic and psychopathic cat-lickers like you for 15 years. (hint: threatening humans with harm is the very act of a pure sociopath and psychopath, thanks for proving that about cat-lickers again) Soon as i STOPPED paying attention to you and just did what needed to be done was the problem completely solved. It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats' play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow humans. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.
Nature_Advocate April 10, 2013 at 05:32 AM
You might consider acting like a responsible grown-up for once in your sorry and pathetic self-victimizing life and learn how to take care of a pet like a responsible adult. If not? If it dies from your criminal negligence? That is YOUR FAULT AND YOUR FAULT ALONE. Nobody's playing your manipulative self-victimization games anymore. No matter how a cat dies because you don't really love it, that is YOUR FAULT. Make NO mistake about that. Go ahead, throw some more cats under the wheels of moving cars while you claim how much you love them. That's always good for another laugh-at-you.
TBL35 April 10, 2013 at 02:56 PM
Wow, how ridiculous
TBL35 April 10, 2013 at 02:58 PM
Documentation of this, please
TBL35 April 10, 2013 at 02:59 PM
You are really very sick.
Juls April 10, 2013 at 07:13 PM
Wow! I'm not in agreement with all the killing, I admit I don't like cats and my first post states that. But, seriously Kathryn you have an anger issue. You say someone is going "straight into hell itself" Sorry, but killing cats is not something that will damn you to hell. Again, I am not agreeing with killing cats. I do agree with you on the fact that it is not the cats fault, it is the humans who let them lose and don't Spay/Neuter. I will stand with I don't agree that I should have to deal the cost of doing the TNR. I have a pet that I take care of. Every pet I have ever owned was well taken care of and I still stand on the fact that I don't like when cat owner's let their cats roam free to mess in other people's yards, etc. Why do I have to deal with the extra cost of keeping them out? I have a neutered and vaccinated dog and my yard is fully fenced. I leash my dog when I walk him and always pick up after him. I'm doing my part! It's shame that you feel you need to attack people who don't agree with you. I didn't attack anyone, I just posted my opinion, I thought this was what we were supposed to do here. Not start a battle. No one is attacking you. Relax
Justine Rice April 11, 2013 at 01:10 AM
She is not worth it! She just wants to fight with everyone, cause She has some major issues! so dont focus on her and her un-adult like behavior, Lets just focus on what's important helping these animals! This Saturday we will be at Sims park, will be dogs and cats for adoption. I hope to see you all there, especially YOU!
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 04:51 AM
If ANY cats have been roaming free and you don't know their vaccination history, they MUST, BY LAW, be quarantined for a MINIMUM of 6 MONTHS before those cats can be transferred for sale or adoption. This is a requirement of ALL wild-harvested animals intended for any sector of the pet-trade. If an animal has already contracted rabies giving it a vaccine is already too late. This is precisely why uneducated TNR practitioners have caused rabies outbreaks in so many areas. (Google for: TNR Carlsbad NM Pets Destroyed, for a fun one. Over 50 well cared-for pets and even more livestock all had to be destroyed because of a TNR colony.)The incubation period for rabies runs from 21 to 240 days (to 11 months), with one rare case taking 6 YEARS. The usually required 10-14 day holding period after an animal bite is ONLY meant to detect if the animal was infectious at the time of the bite, but DOES NOT prove the animal does not have rabies. Which might eventually surface 11 months later. If you adopt out ANY pet that's been taken from outdoors, you better be damned sure you're not giving someone an animal that is harboring rabies or any other many deadly diseases that you've not tested for. Because if you do? I hope they sue you ALL so hard and deep that NONE of you ever recover from it for the rest of your sorry lives. Google for: rabid cat adopted wake county Another example (of thousands), Google for: rabid kitten jamestown exposure
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 04:52 AM
Adopting or approaching any unknown cat that's been outdoors is just playing Russian Roulette. The net is flooded with similar examples every week. THOUSANDS of people must endure, pay for (out of their own pocket) the painful and expensive (more than $1000) rabies shots if they get scratched or bitten by any stray or feral cat, especially if that cat cannot be trapped again to destroy it and test it for rabies. Stray-cat feeders are guaranteeing this, by training and teaching these cats to approach humans for food. These wild animals then lashing out by biting or scratching at any hands that try to touch or pet the now seemingly-friendly "cute kitty". Two recent cases even report where rabid cats entered a home-owner's unlocked pet door, and another where the cat even came right through their ceiling in search of human-supplied foods. One attack so bad that the family required hospitalization. Even vaccinating your cat against rabies won't prevent it from finding the nearest rabid bat dying on the ground to rip it to shreds for its daily cat's play-toy. Then bringing back a mouthful or claws full of fresh rabies virus to you, your family, neighbors, other pets, or other animals. ANY cat, due to their need to sink their teeth into anything that moves, if allowed outdoors can transmit rabies to others, vaccinated or not.
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 04:56 AM
These are just the diseases these invasive species cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Plague, Rabies, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasma. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Tularemia, and Rat-Bite Fever can now also be added to that list. Google for: Cat-Transmitted Fatal Pneumonic Plague, for a fun one. Yes, the plague is alive and well today, and BEING SPREAD BY CATS. People have already died from cat-transmitted plague. Or Google for: Oregon man suffering plague Or: Taos cat has plague Or: (hundreds of others). Totally disproving that oft-spewed LIE cat-lickers tell about more cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. Cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own. Now add in the fact that cats attract rodents right to them if the cats infect rodents with their Toxoplasma gondii parasite (Google for: Parasite Hijacks the Mind of Its Host), and you'll see a plague the likes of which have never existed before. Especially when you breed super-strains of plague with your irresponsible use of antibiotics.
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 05:31 AM
You leave me with 2 choices. I can either be drawn to the screeches and screams of an animal in torment, then run to find a cat gutting or skinning alive an animal for a cat's play-toy, then having to muster up the strength of heart to stomp that poor suffering animal to death with my own foot to hush its screams. Just as I had to do several times a week for FIFTEEN YEARS. OR I can humanely shoot a cat and have it instantly die to stop that from happening forever. Which would you prefer that I do on your behalf? Those are your ONLY 2 choices. For those are the ONLY two choices that you have given to me. After witnessing 1000's of animals suffering in torment from cats using them for tortured play-toys, I now have no idea why any cat deserves a humane death today. A cat dying the same way it tortures other animals would be perfectly just and equitable. If you believe in karma maybe you'll be skinned alive or gutted alive someday, then left to flop around and scream in agony. Hoping your screams can draw the attention of someone with the strength of heart to put you out of your misery. Like I had to do to all the animals that you tortured to death with your cats. Though hope like heII that I'm not the one to hear your screams. I'll just leave you there to thoroughly learn your much-deserved lesson and not even risk dirtying my boots with your unused gray-matter -- I'll just keep on walking to a far far better day.
Juls April 11, 2013 at 06:05 AM
I read my posts over again, thinking are you commenting on mine or someone else's? What is so mean-spirited about my last post? Why are you mad at me just because I don't like cats? Sorry, I'm a dog person. I've had cats several times, don't like their sneakiness or their attitudes. So, I stick with dogs. I don't parade my dog down the street as you put it. I take him to dog parks and to beaches that allow dogs. I would never allow my dog to pee or poop on someones flower bed or lawn, I curb my dog if I am on the street. My dog doesn't go into other people's fenced in yards either unlike cats and he doesn't spray that awful smell all over the place that makes the yards stink. I didn't advocate poisoning or shooting cats either, so why do you write like I do? Ironic as your next sentence after you talk about me advocating that you say you are taking a pregnant cat to have an abortion! So, it's better to murder kittens, rather than the older strays that could be infected with something and are nasty to people. The kittens could be vaccinated, fixed and adopted out. Abortion is murder whether it be an animal or a human. :( Why are people "Prissy" because they don't want cats in their yard? We have frogs in our yard that take care of the bugs on my vegetable plants. The others I've never seen. Your anger is more for the "Nature_Advocate" There is nothing wrong, hateful or mean-spirited about not liking cats or wanting them in your yard. I am relaxed, you are the upset one.
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 05:39 PM
Even the sheriff couldn't deal with people like you after 15 years of a cat-infestation that people LIKE YOU had caused. He advised that I just start shooting cats until every last one was dead, buried, and gone. Now I have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to correct all the lies, misinformation, and deceptions of manipulative con-artist cat-lickers like you. You can look at it this way .... it took me 2 hunting seasons to get rid of every last cat; feral, pet, it mattered not. To stop them from destroying all native wildlife on my lands. This was accomplished through RELENTLESS vigilance and accuracy. I then realized the ONLY way to prevent this from ever happening again was to apply the very same techniques to those that had caused this disaster. To stop them, for myself, everyone else, and all life on earth that has been tormented by the absolute ignorance, spinelessness, heartlessness, and foolishness of TNR advocates. I have absolutely NO desire to be forced to shoot your piece of sh** cats again! But if YOU DON'T STOP letting your vermin roam free then I WILL BE FORCED TO SHOOT CATS AGAIN. YOUR CHOICE AND YOUR CHOICE ALONE. If you don't want me to shoot cats, don't let them roam free. I'm not going away until every last cat-licker that releases these food-chain destroying, deadly-disease spreading, invasive-species piece-of-sh**s have been stopped from practicing their criminally-irresponsible behavior. You can count on that.
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Moral of the Story: I wasted 15 YEARS dealing with cat-lickers. During which their _invasive_species_ cats destroyed nearly all wildlife on my lands. It wasn't til I STOPPED trying to reason with morons, and on advice of the sheriff just did what had to be done -- SHOOT ALL CATS -- that my lands, all the wildlife, and my life itself started to return to normal. I no longer go out twice a day on cat-patrol to shoot more, nor waste more time burying them to protect wildlife from cat-diseases. Much to the dismay of manipulative TNR LIARS that spew their psychotic "vacuum effect" BS. NO CATS returned. Native wildlife that BELONGS HERE returned. You can argue with the Toxo-parasites in cat-lickers' brains til you are blue in the face and your world is destroyed by cats, but it'll NEVER get rid of their cats. Just do what needs to be done -- DESTROY _ALL_ UNSUPERVISED CATS. Later, AFTER your lands and life are 100% cat-free, try educating the idiots. Use the time you got back from their cats taking over your life to share the best ways to destroy cats. And if you want, make YOUR life THEIR problem. Just as they made THEIR cats YOUR problem all these years. It's only fair! Because that's what it's really all about. It's not about cats at all. They only want to control and ruin your life with their cats. You can stop that immediately by destroying their cats. And there's not ONE THING they can do about it if you do it right.
Nature_Advocate April 11, 2013 at 05:51 PM
Promise? Or will I have to shut you up again on yet another cat-licker's website?
Juls April 11, 2013 at 06:53 PM
"Another anti-abortion freak" Wow! Yes, and proudly I support life! I know several friends who have black cats and they are beautiful. Doesn't make me want one, but the odds of a kitten vs a stray are higher. Yes, they do have attitudes, unlike dogs who love to please, cats could care less about you and are all about them only needing you when they want you on their terms. I've had several cats and wouldn't have another one. Here is a perfect video :) http://youtu.be/GbycvPwr1Wg It hits the nail on the head! LOL! Lighten up? You are the one attacking. I was just responding to your posts to me.
LB June 10, 2013 at 01:17 AM
We need TNR program for criminals since most of them do not care for their children nor can they afford them and just use the money and foodstamps for trade of drugs, alcohol and other needs for themselves! They bread children to be the same as them.
Chrissy Bierman February 17, 2014 at 01:24 PM
Hopefully Juls and Nature_Advocate are up in years and they will BLESS THIS PLANET by dying a slow and horrible DEATH ASAP.

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something